Future Positive SynEarth CommUnity of Minds Future Positive
CommUnity of Minds CommUnity of Minds

We each view reality from our own unique perspective, only a community of minds can show us the truth.

SEARCH

Editors

Home

AboutUs

TalkToUs

HelpUs HelpYou


Understanding Human Intelligence

Acting Locally

RWWNL

My World of
Ought to Be

Community

Introduction

Fossil Fuel Depletion Crisis

Solutions #1

Survival Guide

Sustainable Food

Scientists Speak

Global Warming


Discussion

Recent Discussion

Create New Topic

Login

Logout

Join to Discuss

Active

Agriculture

Permanent link to archive for 6/4/02. Tuesday, June 4, 2002

Thoughts on India and "War Threat"

Rajesh Babu
Chaordic Edge

 I am not into politics. I don't favor one party against another.

During the recent Gujarat Carnage, the Prime Minister of India stated to newspapers that "he was ashamed" of what had happened. He also targeted the people who did all this, by asking "how can I face the world".

Whatever I have to say is not against him, I am sure the Indian culture itself is like that. It seems like, the people who did all this are like children and the parent is ashamed of what the observers will think of. This is the same mentality that one sees in many parents in India. As if all that matters is what others will think, if others are ok with that, then this can go on.

The various political parties in India don’t care (there may be individuals or small groups that do care) about what happens to people. All that matters is finding some situations where they can topple the ruling party.

It seems to me that the Indian government is always whining to United States (sometimes to the world too) that the neighbor is doing this or doing that. The tension between India and Pakistan has been there for a long time. There is a long history behind the current state of affairs between the two countries. The two country’s representative governments have been always under pressure to stand up against each other.

Many a times both countries have stated that they are "open" for talks, still carrying the past reasoning (and its conclusions). Instead of (trying to find) finding new solutions, both sides keep harping about the past. 

I am not sure whether people living near the "border" really care whether they are "under" Indian government or Pakistani government, as long as their basic life needs are met.

The current “war threat” was an unnecessary act by both governments. I felt that it was a hollow statement. Though it got amplified and caused ripples in international circles.

How is it ok to wage war on neighboring country that creates problem to your country, when all the while it is wrong to retaliate the neighboring family who creates problem? This arms race and retaliation is not going to help in prospering both nations.

Both countries’ representatives (government and people) have been sitting opposite to each other and pointing fingers towards each other. I think we all should sit on the same side and face the future.

Rajesh Babu is a software engineer and lives with his family in India.


Preparing for War

Joshua Micah Marshall
The Washington Monthly

Imagine for a moment that you're President George W. Bush. At some point in the next several months you will have to decide whether to overthrow Saddam Hussein--not just to threaten and saber-rattle and hope something gives, but actually to pull the trigger on what could be a very costly and risky military venture. How precisely will you make that decision? It will almost certainly come down to a choice between which of two groups of advisers you choose to believe. One side is comprised of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, most of the career military, nearly every Middle East expert at the State Department, and the vast majority of intelligence analysts and CIA operations officers who know the region. These folks generally think that the idea of attacking Saddam is questionable at best, reckless at worst. On the other side are a few dozen neoconservative think tank scholars and defense policy intellectuals. Few of them have any serious knowledge of the Arab world, the Middle East, or Islam. Fewer still have served in the armed forces. In other words, to give the go-ahead to war with Iraq, you'd have to decide that the experienced hands are all wrong, and throw in your lot with a bunch of hot-headed ideologues. Oh, and one other thing: The last few times, the ideologues have turned out to be right. To anyone who's followed foreign affairs for the last couple of decades, the names of the neoconservative hawks will be familiar--or, if you're a liberal, chilling. Their eminence grise is Richard Perle, who serves simultaneously as a fellow at the American Enterprise Institute and chairman of the Pentagon's Defense Policy Board, a heretofore somnolent committee of foreign policy old-timers that Perle has refashioned into a key advisory group. Of all the hawks, Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz probably has the most powerful job inside the Bush administration. A dozen others hold key posts at the State Department and the White House. Most are acolytes of Perle, and also Jewish, passionately pro-Israel, and pro-Likud. And all are united by a shared idea: that America should be unafraid to use its military power early and often to advance its interests and values. It is an idea that infuriates most members of the national security establishment at the Pentagon, State, and the CIA, who believe that America's military force should be used rarely and only as a last resort, preferably in concert with allies.

The neocons have been clashing with the establishment since the 1970s. Back then, the consensus view among foreign policy elites was that the Cold War was an indefinite or perhaps even a permanent fact of world politics, to be managed with diplomacy and nuclear deterrence. The neocons argued for deliberately tipping the balance of power in America's direction. Ronald Reagan championed their ideas, and brought a number of neocons into his administration, including Perle and Wolfowitz. Reagan's huge defense buildup and harsh, even provocative, rhetoric contributed significantly to running the Soviet military-industrial complex into the ground.The president went for the Hail Mary pass--whatever the dangers--and it worked.

During the Gulf War, the hawks urged President George H.W. Bush to ignore the limits of his U.N. mandate, roll the tanks into Baghdad, and bring down Saddam Hussein's regime. Bush sided with the then-chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Colin Powell (the embodiment of the establishment, who had advised Bush against liberating Kuwait), and left Saddam in power. The neocons have been saying I told you so ever since.

In the 1990s, as the Balkans descended into civil war, this same establishment urged President Clinton to proceed with caution. After several years of carnage, Clinton finally broke with the experts and launched air strikes against Bosnia, then Kosovo. Many conservative Republicans criticized Clinton at the time, but the neocons, despite their loathing for the president, supported his efforts. And rightly so: American action ended the bloodshed and brought stability to a key region of Europe with practically no loss of American life.

Again and again, for more than two decades, the neocon hawks have called it right. But they've gotten a lot wrong, too. Back in the 1970s and early 1980s, they portrayed the U.S.S.R. as a menacing giant about to overwhelm us, when in fact--we now know--it was already headed for collapse, and its downfall had more to do with its own terminal rot than anything America did. They cheered on (and in some cases aided) bloody proxy wars in Central America and Africa that did little to hasten the Soviets' demise, but plenty to brutalize entire populations and tarnish America's image abroad. Neocons led the successful effort to kill Bush senior's policy, fashioned by the establishment, of conditioning U.S. aid to Israel on freezing expansion of Jewish settlements in the West Bank--a policy that seems, in the wake of recent bloodshed in the Middle East, visionary. Even on Iraq the neocons' record has been marred by errors of judgment and manifest recklessness and dishonesty.  Their favored means of toppling Saddam is a CIA-created opposition leader, Ahmed Chalabi, a glib exile who hasn't lived in Iraq since he was a teenager and has no discernable support, let alone control over armed forces, inside the country. In the aftermath of September 11, neocons repeatedly tried to tie Saddam to either the World Trade Center attacks or the anthrax mailings. The evidence for such a connection was always slight to nonexistent, which they understood. But they made the argument anyway. That's how they operate.

While arguments for and against invading Iraq continue, preparations for an attack are well underway. The Pentagon is moving troops and armaments to U.S.-allied Arab emirates that ring the Persian Gulf. The State Department is getting serious about organizing and uniting the Iraqi opposition. Diplomats are discussing with allies like Turkey and Kuwait the role they would play in a U.S. attack. There is talk of a military assault on Iraq as early as this winter, though a more likely target date is 12 to 18 months from now. (With victory scheduled in time for the '04 elections? Perish the thought!) Whatever the date, some kind of war seems increasingly certain--and probably wise, for the hawks have a much better argument for attacking Iraq than many people imagine. But with their peculiar mix of strategic vision, recklessness, and intellectual dishonesty, they're the last people who should be in charge of carrying it out.

Read the full article


 
June 2002
Sun
Mon
Tue
Wed
Thu
Fri
Sat
 
4
9
16
22
29
 
May   Jul


Copyright 'fair use' Notice

This page was last updated: Tuesday, June 4, 2002 at 4:50:08 AM
TrustMark 2008 by the SynEARTH.network.

Create your own Manila site in minutes. Everyone's doing it!